{"id":16860,"date":"2025-05-15T15:05:10","date_gmt":"2025-05-15T15:05:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/2025\/05\/15\/russia-and-ukraine-are-due-to-meet-but-wholl-show-up-heres-what-we-know\/"},"modified":"2025-05-15T15:05:10","modified_gmt":"2025-05-15T15:05:10","slug":"russia-and-ukraine-are-due-to-meet-but-wholl-show-up-heres-what-we-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/2025\/05\/15\/russia-and-ukraine-are-due-to-meet-but-wholl-show-up-heres-what-we-know\/","title":{"rendered":"Russia and Ukraine are due to meet \u2013 but who\u2019ll show up? Here\u2019s what we know"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1t7xn004c27p26zm9dt7l@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Ukraine\u2019s President Volodymyr Zelensky might meet Russia\u2019s President Vladimir Putin in Turkey on Thursday \u2013 if the Russian leader decides to show up for a summit that he himself suggested.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00023b6mpqex3ndy@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The possibility of the two men meeting face-to-face has caused major excitement,  but the Kremlin has so far declined to say who is coming to Turkey and Russian officials have spent days preparing justifications and excuses for Putin\u2019s absence.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00033b6mca3tjaqs@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The talks are unlikely to yield immediate results, and they almost certainly won\u2019t bring the elusive \u201cdeal\u201d US President Donald Trump has been promising since returning to the White House in January.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00043b6mii1fe7mv@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Yet despite the caveats, a direct meeting between Kyiv and Moscow at any level would mark a milestone in the conflict. The two are not known to have held direct talks since soon after Moscow launched its unprovoked, full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00053b6mt0oly27g@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Here is what we know.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmao25216001g3b6miint0s2e@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"how-did-we-get-to-this-point\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        How did we get to this point?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00073b6mrq51ww3r@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The talks were first proposed by Putin in response to the ceasefire-or-sanctions ultimatum given to Moscow by Ukraine\u2019s European allies on Saturday, when the leaders of Germany, France, Poland and the United Kingdom demanded that Russia accept a 30-day ceasefire proposal or face a new round of \u201cmassive\u201d sanctions.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00083b6m9yo00dxi@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Putin ignored the ultimatum, proposing instead \u201cdirect talks\u201d between Russia and Ukraine.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00093b6mtc5dd4zj@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            This was likely a delaying tactic by Putin  \u2013 something he has successfully deployed several times in the past.  But it appears to have backfired.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000a3b6m4gusf5d5@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The Europeans and Ukraine initially said there could be no talks before a ceasefire is agreed, but that quickly changed when US President Donald Trump got involved. In a post on social media, he publicly urged Zelensky to \u201cHAVE THE MEETING, NOW!!!\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000b3b6m241h82zl@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Putin wasn\u2019t suggesting a one-on-one with his loathed Ukrainian counterpart. He said he wanted a restart of the talks that took place in the spring of 2022 and were attended by top-level diplomats, but not the leaders themselves.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000c3b6m3a6xqky4@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            But Zelensky raised the stakes by announcing he was going to travel to Turkey himself and called on Putin to do the same. The Ukrainian leader made it clear that he would not meet with any other Russian official, arguing that \u201ceverything in Russia depends on Putin.\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000e3b6mby3rvzh4@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            This has left the Russian leader in bit of a tight spot.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000f3b6mqnq3lrti@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            If Putin decides to show up \u2013 which most Kremlin watchers think is unlikely \u2013 he would undermine his own false narrative that Zelensky and his government are illegitimate.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000g3b6mwr2x96r1@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            But  if he decides to stay at home, Putin will give Zelensky an opportunity to point out, once again, that Russia is not serious about peace.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000h3b6m7jbjk878@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            This message would be aimed squarely at Trump. Kyiv and its European allies have long said they don\u2019t believe Putin is seriously interested in negotiating peace.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000i3b6mx9u7lo6q@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Trump has previously repeatedly expressed his belief in the opposite, although he began expressing his doubts in recent weeks, questioning whether Putin wants peace after speaking to Zelensky on the sidelines of Pope Francis\u2019 funeral in the Vatican last month. The spectacle of Zelensky sitting across the table from an empty chair would likely reinforce this point.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000j3b6m91l0okl2@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            This is also likely the key reason why Zelensky suggested a personal meeting with Putin, who, according to Ukrainian and Western intelligence services, had previously ordered his assassination.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmao25ewd001j3b6mj8pz22ji@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"what-could-be-on-the-table\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        What could be on the table?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000l3b6mb2tvvrgs@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The two sides are so far apart that it is unclear what the talks \u2013 if they were to happen \u2013 would be about.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000m3b6mqui2f7pi@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Zelensky said on Tuesday that anything other than an agreement on an unconditional ceasefire would be a failure.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000n3b6mekv68hlt@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Putin, meanwhile, said that while Russia does not rule out that \u201cduring these talks there will be a possibility to arrange some kind of new truce, a new ceasefire,\u201d the talks will aim to eliminate the \u201croot causes\u201d of the conflict.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000o3b6m742yjpj3@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The \u201croot causes\u201d he cites include long-held Russian grievances that include the existence of Ukraine \u2013 formerly part of the Soviet Union \u2013 as a sovereign state, and NATO\u2019s eastward expansion since the end of the Cold War.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000p3b6mvd1ycfky@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Neither is negotiable for Ukraine or its allies.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmao2g2j1001u3b6mytywduot@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"what-happened-the-last-time-ukraine-and-russia-talked-to-each-other\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        What happened the last time Ukraine and Russia talked to each other?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000r3b6m6ei8eeou@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The last known direct talks between Kyiv and Moscow took place in Turkey and Belarus in the spring of 2022 \u2013 when it became clear that Putin\u2019s initial plan to take over the whole of Ukraine and install a new puppet government in Kyiv within a few days had gone catastrophically wrong.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000s3b6m6nzr13k2@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            This left Russia scrambling, trying to achieve its goals through negotiations.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao2igsn00203b6mujdl5oy0@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The Institute for the Study of War, a US-based conflict monitor, said the agreement that was proposed by Moscow called for Ukraine to surrender its sovereignty and would have made Ukraine completely powerless in the face of any future attacks.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000t3b6m291juu4w@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Once Ukrainian forces began liberating parts of northern Ukraine, finding clear evidence of massacres and other atrocities as they advanced, the talks started to collapse.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000u3b6m1hskcyit@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The Russian abuses uncovered in one town in particular \u2013 Bucha, just north of Kyiv \u2013 horrified the world and hardened the resolve of the Ukrainian people.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmao25pbl001m3b6mxdihdlxk@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"if-its-not-putin-who-else-could-be-coming\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        If it\u2019s not Putin, who else could be coming?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao5irpt00003b6morcoff9d@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Shortly after Zelensky challenged the Russian leader to travel to Turkey, the Kremlin started to lay the groundwork for the possibility that Putin might not attend.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000x3b6m8518opm5@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            \u201cThis is pure spectacle, it\u2019s theatrics. Because high-level meetings, especially in such a difficult situation, are absolutely not organized in this way,\u201d the deputy head of Russia\u2019s Federation Council Konstantin Kosachev told Russian state TV station Russia 24 on Monday.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000y3b6mc9q6nn4d@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            He said negotiators \u201cat an expert-technical level\u201d would attend. Kremlin aide and former Russian ambassador to the US Yuriy Ushakov said the Russian delegation will be determined by the topics that will be discussed, which he said would include \u201cboth political and, I would say, a myriad of technical issues.\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w000z3b6mtglqw19s@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The \u201cmyriad of technical issues\u201d comment could be an indication that Moscow intends to continue with its strategy of stalling, haggling over every detail and saying no without explicitly saying \u201cno.\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00103b6mn3urfifd@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The stakes are higher this time, as both Trump and Ukraine\u2019s European allies said they would impose more sanctions on Moscow if it doesn\u2019t agree to the ceasefire.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmao264u4001p3b6mpc2l9jef@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"what-else-do-we-know-about-the-talks\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        What else do we know about the talks?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00123b6m408an7ke@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Not much. The Turkish government said earlier this week that it was prepared to provide \u201call kinds of support, including mediation and hosting negotiations, to achieve peace\u201d in Ukraine.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00133b6mrtyf5h10@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Turkey has played the role of the bridge between Moscow and Kyiv in the past, most notably when it brokered the Black Sea Grain Initiative which guarantees the safe passage of Ukrainian ships carrying food exports \u2013 a rare diplomatic success in the brutal conflict. Russia withdrew from the pact in 2023.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00143b6mfip22jtq@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            As a NATO member, Turkey is invested in the conflict, but it is also seen as more amenable to Russia, with the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan previously hailing his \u201cspecial relationship\u201d with Putin.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00153b6m3m22rrb5@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Trump\u2019s special envoy to Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, and his foreign envoy, Steve Witkoff, both plan to be in Istanbul for the talks, a senior Trump administration official said on Tuesday, a statement confirmed by another source familiar with the plans.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00163b6mczf1lg82@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The US Secretary of State Marco Rubio is also in Turkey, attending an informal meeting of NATO foreign ministers.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00173b6mbhhekeyy@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            As of Tuesday, the plan was for the US officials to observe the Turkish-facilitated talks between the Ukrainians and Russians.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00183b6mumzwieyz@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Rubio, Kellogg and Witkoff all took part in some of the previous rounds of talks in Saudi Arabia, in which they acted as intermediaries, meeting separately with the Russian delegation and then, a few days later, with the Ukrainians.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmao1tk3w00193b6mu62yzkxr@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            This time, the fact that the two delegations might meet face to face is significant  \u2013 even if their goal is more about satisfying Trump than reaching an actual deal.    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on cnn.com<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ukraine\u2019s President Volodymyr Zelensky might meet Russia\u2019s President Vladimir Putin in Turkey on Thursday \u2013&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":16861,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16860","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-world"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16860","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16860"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16860\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/16861"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16860"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16860"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16860"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}