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final moments on the flight deck.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh600043b6m17cf0nn8@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner\u2019s cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder, which were recovered from on top of the medical college hostel building where the plane crashed, could put to rest some of the speculation into the investigation that killed 241 people aboard the aircraft, according to aviation industry experts.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh600053b6mw7w09wew@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The flight data recorder was recovered from the rear end of the plane.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh600073b6ms0qg7gjj@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            \u201cIt\u2019s quite dramatic,\u201d Goelz said. \u201cIt looked to me like the plane was trying to land at the end. It was flaring,<em> <\/em>but we just won\u2019t know until we get the boxes back.\u201d    <\/p>\n<div data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/related-content\/instances\/cmbv5lwsw000b3b6myg25es8g@published\" data-component-name=\"related-content\" class=\"related-content-elevate related-content--article\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n<header class=\"related-content__title related-content__title-text\" data-editable=\"content.title\">Related article<\/header>\n<section class=\"related-content__body\">\n<div class=\"related-content__image image__related-content\">\n<div data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/image\/instances\/cmbtb71vp002g26p6f35i6q5t@published\" class=\"image-elevate image__hide-placeholder\" data-image-variation=\"image\" data-name=\"GtPGimubIAABkb6.jpeg\" data-component-name=\"image\" data-observe-resizes=\"\" data-breakpoints=\"{&quot;image--eq-extra-small&quot;: 115, &quot;image--eq-small&quot;: 300, &quot;image--eq-large&quot;: 660}\" data-original-ratio=\"0.75\" data-original-height=\"1500\" data-original-width=\"2000\" data-url=\"https:\/\/media.cnn.com\/api\/v1\/images\/stellar\/prod\/gtpgimubiaabkb6.jpeg?c=original\" data-editable=\"settings\">\n<div class=\"image__container \" data-image-variation=\"image\" data-breakpoints=\"{&quot;image--eq-extra-small&quot;: 115, &quot;image--eq-small&quot;: 300, &quot;image--show-credits&quot;: 525}\">       CISF Rescue Operations Underway at AI 171 Crash Site, Ahmedabad.<\/strong> Following the tragic crash of London-bound Air India flight AI 171 near Ahmedabad Airport, <a href=\"\/\/x.com\/hashtag\/CISF?src=hashtag_click&quot;\" target=\"&quot;_blank&quot;\">#CISF<\/a> personnel immediately activated emergency protocols and rushed to the site. 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Rescue operations are being carried out in close coordination with local authorities and emergency services.  <\/div><figcaption class=\"image__credit\">CISF\/X<\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"related-content__headline\">        <span class=\"related-content__headline-text\" data-editable=\"content.headline\">How the Air India plane came crashing to earth<\/span>      <\/p>\n<\/section>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh600083b6m3nd713x6@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau of India is in possession of the recorders and other potential pieces of evidence for the investigation. The data recorders are expected to give some insight into what happened during the flight\u2019s final moments, when pilots were making critical decisions.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv59od200003b6mt07jefec@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Less than a minute after takeoff, staff on the plane gave a mayday call to air traffic control, Indian civil aviation authorities said.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh600093b6md44qyf0s@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The deadly crash has drawn even more global attention to air safety and spurred on public<strong> <\/strong>anxieties about flying. There have already been several aviation tragedies and incidents this year \u2014 including January\u2019s midair collision between an Army Black Hawk helicopter and an American Airlines regional jet \u2014 that have prompted calls to increase safety measures.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader-elevate vossi-subheader vossi-subheader--size-h2\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmbv1xxms000z3b6memlal7vy@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"boeings-dreamliner\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        Boeing\u2019s Dreamliner<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000b3b6mdrgztv50@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Boeing\u2019s 787-8 Dreamliner is highly regarded by many aviation experts for its reliability and engineering. In the last 14 years, the fleet has carried more than 1 billion total passengers, according to Boeing.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000c3b6mi8z2l065@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            \u201cIt truly is an amazing airplane, and when they engineered it, it was completely off the normal production line of what Boeing usually creates,\u201d said Erika Armstrong, a pilot and director of marketing at Advanced Aircrew Academy.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000d3b6mxv1tlxyn@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            For years, the company has drawn increasing scrutiny for crashes involving its planes, leading to the 20-month grounding of its MAX aircraft following two deadly crashes, quality concerns and financial woes.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000e3b6mofnxlt5a@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Golez said the tragedy \u201ccouldn\u2019t happen at a worse time for Boeing,\u201d which is part of the investigation along with GE Aerospace, the engine manufacturer for the plane.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000f3b6m3xvyponp@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            In the United States, the plane maker will be in the hot seat at the end of the month, when investigators are set to determine the probable cause of an in-flight separation of a mid-exit door plug on a Boeing 737-9 commercial plane near Portland, Oregon, last year.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000g3b6mmqnro77g@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Boeing CEO Kelly Ortberg has also reportedly canceled plans to attend the Paris Air Show, a major aviation industry event where the company typically shows off its aircraft.    <\/p>\n<div data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/image\/instances\/cmbv5hivk00053b6mnb40t9r9@published\" class=\"image_large-elevate image_large__hide-placeholder\" data-image-variation=\"image_large\" data-name=\"GettyImages-2208147874.jpg\" data-component-name=\"image\" data-observe-resizes=\"\" data-breakpoints=\"{&quot;image_large--eq-extra-small&quot;: 115, &quot;image_large--eq-small&quot;: 300, &quot;image_large--eq-large&quot;: 660}\" data-original-ratio=\"0.7\" data-original-height=\"1400\" data-original-width=\"2000\" data-url=\"https:\/\/media.cnn.com\/api\/v1\/images\/stellar\/prod\/gettyimages-2208147874.jpg?c=original\" data-editable=\"settings\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">\n<div class=\"image_large__container \" data-image-variation=\"image_large\" data-breakpoints=\"{&quot;image_large--eq-extra-small&quot;: 115, &quot;image_large--eq-small&quot;: 300, &quot;image_large--show-credits&quot;: 525}\">           <\/div>\n<div class=\"image_large__metadata-container media__metadata-container\">\n<div class=\"image_large__metadata media__metadata\">\n<div class=\"image_large__caption attribution\">    <span data-editable=\"metaCaption\" class=\"inline-placeholder\">Boeing CEO Kelly Ortberg testifies before the US Senate on April 2, 2025. He has reportedly canceled plans to attend the Paris Air Show this year.<\/span>  <\/div><figcaption class=\"image_large__credit\">Win McNamee\/Getty Images<\/figcaption><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000h3b6mubxc37qx@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            \u201cThis accident is a further challenge,\u201d Goelz said.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000j3b6m3lm6yzn1@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The Dreamliner is popular for international routes, with the 787-8 configuration fitting up to 248 passengers, according to Boeing.    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"subheader inline-placeholder subheader-elevate vossi-subheader vossi-subheader--size-h2\" data-editable=\"text\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/subheader\/instances\/cmbv1xav2000v3b6msqxww7yf@published\" data-component-name=\"subheader\" id=\"what-happens-next\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">        What happens next<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000m3b6m5ly06uj0@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Jeff Guzzetti, president of consulting firm Guzzetti Aviation Risk Discovery and former NTSB official, said these investigations typically hold an \u201corganizational meeting\u201d where all of the technical experts will gather, recalling his own experience with accidents.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000n3b6m9ogp2vhz@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            \u201cThey will form specialty groups\u201d assigned to analyze different areas, such as the engines or the flight data recorder, he said. \u201cThey\u2019ll put representatives from the different organizations on these groups, and they will begin to methodically document the wreckage and download the recorders.\u201d    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000o3b6mo0i67tbk@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The crash falls under the jurisdiction of the International Civil Aviation Organization, the United Nations agency that helps 193 countries work together in air travel.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000q3b6m0mzyxppc@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            Guzzetti said the investigation is in its fact-finding phase<strong>,<\/strong> which includes wreckage clean up and interviews of those who trained the pilots. The captain and first officer\u2019s background will be looked at, he said, which could range from how much sleep they got to what their flight record was like.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000r3b6m373due4l@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            The black box recovery is critical, many experts say, at this point, because the technology will point to what pilots were saying before they made the mayday call.    <\/p>\n<p class=\"paragraph-elevate inline-placeholder vossi-paragraph\" data-uri=\"cms.cnn.com\/_components\/paragraph\/instances\/cmbv1wrh6000s3b6mpt9hwbh2@published\" data-editable=\"text\" data-component-name=\"paragraph\" data-article-gutter=\"true\">            \u201cThis will not be a mystery for more than another week or so if they got the data recorded,<strong> <\/strong>and the voice recorder will also explain what the pilots thought they were dealing with,\u201d Goelz said. \u201cPilots sometimes make mistakes, you don\u2019t know.\u201d    <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div>This post appeared first on cnn.com<\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aviation news Air travel safety Airplane crashes See all topics Facebook Tweet Email Link Link&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":17927,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-17926","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-world"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17926","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17926"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17926\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/17927"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17926"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17926"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dailywashingtoninsider.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17926"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}